Tuesday voting is highly inconvenient, so why do we still do it?
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Whnt19 is Huntsville, Alabama. I hated that. The other problem is how they register us to vote. Some of our votes didn't even count at that time because many of us, despite the fact of registering were put on provisional ballots. And they did not count them correctly
2:00 in the UK polling stations are open 7am-10pm so voters can visit outside normal working hours, and you can generally walk to your nearest one (I've lived in 5 different locations and always walked). And if that's too hard, there are postal votes. I've never seen a long queue for one, even on the news. I know the US has a bigger population and a larger area to cover- but those queues seemed to be happening in urban areas. If you can spend millions on ad campaigns, you can spend more on polling stations.
In France voting day is always on a Sunday. You can have absentee ballots but no mail vote or early voting. Polls are in town halls, and schools so that everyone can vote near(ish) their homes and it avoids crowding one specific place. And they're open from 7am to like 6, 7 or 8pm in big cities. (also, it's still paper ballots, and you need your electoral card and an ID).
"Who cares"? Clearly the people that can't vote because they can't get off work. Sunday has the most people off work at the same time, so that is clearly the best day.
Of course, this only applies if you actually want people to vote. Or at least certain people.
If we make Election Day a holiday, people will still miss work and therefore money (because the office is closed), or have to work (because infrastructure still needs to operate, and restaurants/retail stores/etc. will be open for all those people off work), or sleep in, or find "sick dunks" to invent because they have the day off.
Why not allow people to vote on Sunday or Monday? Votes on Sunday are NOT counted but separated, thus giving no early result but allowing for a faster tally on Monday. Religious people can vote on Monday. Those who work can vote on Sunday. This is just one possible solution. There are many.
There is at least one other thing that, in a lot of states, is scheduled around the christian sabbath: the sale of alcohol. Many states disallow the sale of any form of alcohol on Sunday, some disallow the sale of hard alcohol but allow the sale of beer, cider, wine. My particular state allows the sale of non-liquor but not until noon: from the sale of alcohol perspective the Texas sabbath extends from midnight until noon on Sunday - kind of a half sabbath. It kind of boils down to the absolute need for alcohol in order to celebrate the state's true religion - football!
In the uk we vote on a Thursday, but the polls are open from 7am-10pm so that everyone can have a chance to vote before or after work. And if you can't make it or don't want to for any reason, you can vote by post
What if the government made an app for that? They could keep paper ballots, because some people don't like to use advanced technology and the Amish still exist, but if you could vote online it would fix a lot of those problems!
it's too keep you from voting. especially to keep poor people who can't afford to miss a day of work from voting. it's like voter ID laws, it's to make voting inacssesible for the lower classes without making it illegal
Sunday is not the Sabbath.
The Sabbath is the Sabbath, which has always been on our Romanesque/ Gregorian calendar, Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.
The Roman Catholic church does not have the authority to change times and laws.
Of note... Almost all the footage of those areas where voting has to happen on Tuesday showed an interesting trend.
The vast majority of people shown were of a racial minority. Seems quite clear that this voting system is primarily being used where racial minorities are most prevalent, clearly causing greater obstacles to racial minorities.
Making it a national holiday or moving it to a weekend is not as clear a solution as one might suspect. Retail workers, fast food, etc. rarely get a normal weekend as their weekend and almost never get holidays off beyond maybe Christmas and a third of Thanksgiving...
The true solution is to not have a damn voting day, but have some form of early voting or a whole damn voting week. And removing the idiocy of early reporting of people's votes.
While we're at it, can we switch to Single Transferable Voting? It's simple, in a vote, you vote for your 1st preference, 2nd, 3rd, etc. Then the votes get tallied and if a 1st preference winner is found, done. If not, they go to round 2, taking the 2nd preference votes from the candidate with the least votes and spread them out, then check again and repeat as needed.
Seriously... the US is just too stupid to vote:
- Voting on a workday for most people? In Germany it's on a sunday.
- Not counting out every single vote? In Germany every single vote counts towards financial aid for the parties
- Only having two parties that completely split the country in half? In Germany we have at least 4 parties in the parlament (though I admit it's becoming more and more like a two-big-party-thing here recently)
- Having a indirect election system is just wrong - look at how Trump won the election -_-
This is a country where minimum wage employees have to drag their tails into work on Thanksgiving day so that, in a few hours later, the masses can stampede their way into the store to tear shit up. Making election day a national holiday isn't going to change much for those who already have a hard time taking off work to vote.
So in America, election days are not national holidays!!!! Are you kidding me?!!?!?!?!!? Plus the stupidly long and complicated system of election and the electoral colleges?!?!?!?!?!?!??! Guys what's the point of you being the oldest democracy in the world of you can't even do elections right!!!!!!!!!!!
I've lived in two different states and never had to wait more than about ten minutes. I really have no idea how that sort of thing happens in places. They just need to open more polling stations in those states. Where I live, there are precincts about every 3-4 blocks -- some areas of the country just run elections better than others.
I would think something else they could do is federally mandate the polling stations stay open over a weekend because that would give people plenty of time to vote and also make it harder to suppress the vote.
+Aurora Wolfe That could depend on your district. Some districts may simply have more or fewer people. Some districts may have more voting booths that they can handle more voters at on time. While other voting districts have fewer voting booths they can only handle fewer voters at one time. These factors alone are engouh to cause different average wait times in different districts.
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Why have raging sociopaths decided on a specific day for everyone to vote for candidates who best serve their interests? Why do you think??? "Even the media doesn't know"... urgh... god... this is why this show is still on the air. If this show crossed certain lines and really got to the bottom of things it probably wouldn't be on the air anymore. That's why you have to rely on alternative media and documentaries.
In Australia election day is on a Saturday, postal votes are allowed for everyone, we even having polling stations set up at all Australian Embassies and High Commissions - AND most importantly we get a sausage sizzle, voting is not complete without the election day sausage sizzle
Why is it that Americans think that the US is "the greatest country in the world" when there's so much crazy stuff going on?
I'm from Germany where certainly not everything is perfect but then I don't claim that it is the greatest country ever. Yet, over here and in many other European countries there are a lot of things that are handled much better than in the US.
I voted on October 18. I'm sure plenty of states have plenty of different ways that people can vote. Now who is allowed to vote (regardless of the Constitution) and how votes are counted, that's another matter entirely.
Wow, so many lines.... In Greece we vote on sundays and we vote in schools depending on our district -then the voting rooms are divided based on alphabetical order. The most I have had to wait was 3 people ahead of me. I would never go to vote if there were such huge lines!!Explains why many americans dont vote, I cant blame them...
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