Today we review the 8x GPU Riserless Motherboard for mining cryptocurrency from Octominer as we build a 8x 1070 TI GPU Mining Rig. Troy visits the Vosk Lab to build Zotac 1070 TI Mini and Amp along with EVGA 1070 TI FTw's to build a GPU Mining Rig pushing almost 4000 sols with low power consumption.
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To Vosk's point, buying from a company that stands behind their products is key. Don't get suckered by that low price on Aliexpress, there's a reason it's so cheap. If the stuff you buy on Ali doesn't work out - good luck getting your money back. Totally LOVE that you can buy Octominer gear with crypto. I"m so done with risers AND the crooks on Ali.
I really liked this review. Unfortunately, when I tried to purchase this board from Octominer they stiffed me and gave me a bogus tracking number. When I confronted them, they said the tracking number would be valid by the end of the day. two days later the tracking number is still invalid.. smelling a scam.
My gf told me yesterday she thought it was funny that I built a mining rig to mine cryptocurrency to use to buy more hardware to mine even more cryptocurrency. Yep, and since octominer and parallelminer accept crypto as payment I didn't even have to sell any coins for fiat first.
Although she does hate how hot it makes it in my house, but whatever.
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Hi Vosk, thanks for another awesome vidoe. I will be placing my order ASAP!
Can you give any more detail about how to power 8 1070 ti's? I am unfamiliar with server power supplies, so I am not sure why you used 2 separate PSU's instead of 1 more powerful one? Surely at 110W per card (as per your overclocking video) a 1400W platinum PSU would be enough for all 8?
bottom line you shouldn't be using aliexpress you should be going to alibaba, there you actually talk with the sales reps and get real customer service. 90% of the suppliers listed on alibaba have english correspondents as well so there really is no communication barrier.
I ordered one of the March batches coming soon. Originally was going to pack it with x8 1060s and changed my mine and decided to space out x4 1080 tis. That way I still had close to the same hashing power and a nice space in between (and an extra 4 slots I could maybe use risers with later when the nex gen cards come out)
Hi Mr Vosk , with 12.000 views already I'm sure there must be a lot of interest in this Octominer board, its got me excited for it, I went to their site and placed an order and saw they have coupon code for a discount on their shopping cart. Would you have the time to contact them and ask for a subscriber coupon code as I'm sure they'd be very interested in talking to you, cheers. Octominer sent a board to Son of a tech for review, almost fell asleep watching it as he's very amateurish in his production but maybe they'll send you one to play with, besides you've got twice the following he has on the 'Youtube's' and deservedly so. Hope both the ladies in your life are doing well, Craig.
You just lost multiple viewers by blatantly lying about something as simple as shipping cost.
Of the 34 boards I've bought off alibaba I've had to ship 2 back and it cost $58 and $67 to ship to china with a 2 week delivery!
This is going to make prices go up for people that knew about this site already. Great video. The case is loud tho and brings it into the not wife friendly zone, I'd compare it to DB lvl's of a ant miner or your fav panda miner. It should be part of the video because it's a must for running this motherboard with 8 cards.
VOS, excuse me if you have mentioned this before.
Where do you get a clean version of the Claymore Ethereum mining software.
I tried to download from the google drive folder. My computer warned me of viruses so i didnt download.
Hey man, love the channel newly interested into concurrency and mining, First time exploring wondering if you had any advice as far as "first mining rig to build or set up / buy" And coins i should focus on to actually show profit once invested into a new machine :)! I dont expect free advice and if you could work with me via PM i would be willing to compensate for your time and info as i dont intend to ride anyone else's success :)
I'm a total newbie at this and finally going to build my first rig thanks to your videos. Quick questions, I understand SMOS does not support WiFi and you recommended a wall Ethernet extender in one of your vids, Please tell me which one you recommend? Thanks again and keep the vids coming
Seems like these server psu are always out of stock. Been wanting to switch over but cant get my hands on them and atx power adapters are out as well. Wish they would do a put your name on the list and when they come in would just charge the credit card on file
Is the sound from the Power Supply? I want to get the server version power supplies, but no one has a real comparison regarding noise. My mining farm is a room in my apartment not an out house so noise and heat is something i look into. Any way you can make a video showing the fan noise of a HP server power supply 1200 vs a standard power supply. I use Corsair HX 1200 for all my builds and noise is non existent. Thank you
The HX1200i is probably the quietest PSU you will find (they don't even spin fans at 600 watts). When you look at corsair link, you will see it runs about 700 rpm (or just under) at 900w load. I think above full load (output above 1200w), it ran about 1200 rpm, and extremely quiet. They are super efficient (my other 1000w on my test bench is louder than my crossfire setup, and feels like more heat pushing out than the FX-8350...). Server PSUs are designed to be in an environment that already sounds like a tornado, so 12k rpm fans screaming is not a concern for them. I would keep using the HX1200i, its a great PSU.
I like that you don't need risers, but to actually run 8 cards in that board you HAVE TO add a lot of airflow, like the Octominer case, which will be very loud. Fine in a datacenter, too loud in a shed in a neighborhood. One thing that would probably work is putting just 4 cards spaced every other PCIe slot, and then they are spaced about the same as the ParallelMiner frame, but without needing a frame or risers. Obviously it would only run 4 cards instead of 6, but the advantage is that the height is much lower, so you can fit a lot more of them onto a shelf unit.
Love the videos in general but the problem that most people are facing is the gpu shortage...you guys seem to be getting more and more cards when most peole cant find anything except the overpriced reseller options...can you allude to how you are getting cards and at what price? Obviously if you have a source you dont have divulge it, but please do let us know if you are ok paying the higher prices and why
Was waiting for this review.. I have a couple of questions.
Allot of people have been complaining about the spacing between the cards. I plan on putting 3 1060 asus strix and 5 gtx970 asus strix.. do you think that would fit? and if I plan on keeping it open air rig would the it overheat..
And only use 1x 1200w hp psu.
Great video brother as always.. love the concept and can you please ask OctoTroy to give you updates on the reliability of the board? hopefully it runs stable for a while:) Thanks again Vossssk always a pleasure and great to see Tails there too:)
Can you review some of the sites like whattomine? and the auto algo switching pools like Block Munch Club?
I found Crypto-Coinz dot net calculator tonight and it has shown me coins that are literally more than triple the profitability of the highest coin on what to mine.
Cheers for all the vids!
Weren't for the mining boards of Asrock and Gigabyte that can be used as a normal motherboard, I will be all over these riserless boards. Yet, the build above makes sense as 1080 Ti's are ridiculously expensive and you don't want a downtime caused by riser cards.
Asic for Bitcoin. Do your research, nobody uses GPUs for mining Bitcoin (you mine other things, then trade for Bitcoin if you want). That's not a simple question anyone can answer, it depends on too many things (coins you want to mine, power cost, resell value in your area, sales, how much space you have, how many cards you want, noise concerns, temperature where they will be running, how long you plan to mine, and trying to predict the future). You just have to learn as much as you can and then make a decision. Good luck.
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I got one of these on order, will run for a month or so if its stable I don't see why these type of boards won't be the future of mining hardware. I think next iteration they should include RAM and storage, maybe not solder it in but they can get great prices on cheap hw why not.
Vosk, nice build, you're stoked Troy! Like the riserless board concept. Vosk can you cover dual PSU hookup, I presume one switch to powerup both is preffered? Are you using Add2PSU or something for that? Thanks.
For 18 GPUs, no, for 8, probably. Every algorithm also varies on how much power they use (I was pushing 300w on one of my cards, and another algorithm it was like 100w), Vega for instance would be 150w for cryptonight, and probably something like 450w+ if you overclocked it on Eth duel mining, so it can be pretty important. Buy a Killawatt meter and then you will know how many cards you can run. Its worth it just so you know its not overloading anything. They are about $20 and just plug in between your wall socket and PSU cable.
I would probably go with water cooling (though some say I water cool everything from my tablet, to motor drivers on robots, to arduino chips just for fun). I'm doing a new water loop for all of my cards and hooking it up to a car radiator (should be fanless radiator), but I want to cool the VRM and VRAM chips, so I'll probably CAD and 3d print a fan bracket for my cards.
Hey Vosk. Not sure if you can help me but after seeing the octominer board and really interested in selling my Avalon 741 to build a rig to mine monero. I found a deal for a rx580 and a ryzen 5 1500x for 549. I was thinking about getting 3 of the deals and then selling at least two of the ryzens. The deal is selling the 580 8g for 399 and the ryzen for 159. But when I run it what to mine I'll only make about 4 a day in profit with a 220 day break even. The 580 price is the cheapest I can find it and I may be worth buying for and reselling them for 450-499 since that's what they are going for on all other sites. What is your experience mining crypto night algo? Can you hit me up man? I'm a huge fan and you are the only that has got me interested in GPU mining
I bought the kit (Case + MB + RAM + SSD) but without the cards because I already have my own 1080 Ti that I wanted to fit into that super high ventilated case.
Sadly, as I posted on Octominer YT channel, some cards can't fit in their case. Like the Zotac 1080 Ti AMP! Ed you are using, it is too long to fit the case. And the MSI 1080 Ti Gaming X is too thick and their fans almost touch the GPU next to it (less than 1/16 of space for airflow).
So I couldn't build a complete 8 GPU setup, and I had to settle to only 4 x MSI 1080 Ti Armor which are of a good size.
But even though the case has powerful delta fan that can blow anything away, the GPU temperature of the leftmost 1080 Ti (MSI Armor) (when you face the case from the front) is 15C higher then the card in the middle. We all know the MSI 1080 Ti Armor runs a little hotter than other 1080 Ti, but even at 70% power, the leftmost card is running right now at 56C, while the other 3 cards (from left to right) are running at 52C, 49C and 41C respectively. So airflow is not good for long high-end cards.
My next test will be with blower cards and will see if they do better - which they probably will since they like being forced-fed and don't mind being tightly next to another GPU.
EVEN WORST, i just noticed the board is made of cheap, not durable materials and no air or cooling.. it will heat up and when one riser/port dies all rig is dead!!! you are screwed! and all for the same price if not more.. GET REKT NOOBs
What are you talking about? You have no idea what you are saying. There are many big mining farms already using OCTOMINER B8PLUS motherboards and everybody is happy with these reliable and energy efficient motherboards. They come with a 1 year warranty and Octominer has service centers in USA and Europe. Get your facts straight before commenting!
WTF are you on? its a Cooking plate for GPUs... no gap between GPUs :D HAHAHHA try putting 8x 1080ti!!!
This video looks more like a scam... they use small cards intentionally so you be screwed when using it in real life :D I BET IT OVER COOKS GPUs REAL FAST :D
You should do a video on how to configure a miner in detail by using an example default configuration and how to make it your own. < being a newbie this is the thing that I am finding the most difficult.
thats all fine and dandy and thats a plus on your product... but do you also pay for my downtime? :)
(since I send the mb back, the whole rig would be down)
with risers it is instant fix.
Any thoughts on that one?
We are the manufacturers of this motherboard. The whole point of this motherboard is that it doesn't need risers. Risers are not integrated, this motherboard has 8 full size PCIe lanes. Should it happen that one of th e slots fail then we will send you a replacement motherboard. We have sold many of these board already and we have not yet seen an issue where a single PCIe slot fails.
Man, what is this? An infomercial? I appreciated the content better when products were not being pushed. It's obvious they are compensating you for this with all of the attention you've been giving it lately. At least get us a discount code if your going to be pushing this product so hard.
I would have made a very similar video, Jonathan. I have an Octominer and it is up and working. I don't have as many cards as Troy and Vosk do, but my rig is running sweet, no hiccups, easy to build and I will keep it cool with fans as necessary.
The sweet part is zero risers. No cost for them, no worry about them going bad. Add the processor already installed on the card, runs cheap on electricity as well. I had two 1070 ti's on my old home computer and the whole package ran 350 watts roughly even with power limited using MSI Afterburner. Same setup on the Octominer with same clocking profile is running 280 watts.
I bought some of these (I have a couple extra). Win 10 installs ZERO problems. It installs all drivers. No extra drivers to install. BIOS settings are all set up for mining. You don't have to change anything like sleep states. I just wish I had more GPUs to populate my boards!
The bottom line is if you are making money. If you are not, then it is time to get out. If you are, then probably not time to leave. I can understand if you have a significant investment in GPU's that you want to recoup before the GPU prices fall, if they do.
I really doubt that GPU mining is dead. It will not be a huge profit but I see it making some money for quite some time in the future. Since it is semi-passive income I think it is well worth the time. And semi-passive because we all know you have to pay some attention to your mining rigs, coins, pools and so forth if you want to keep things working. It is not click and forget.
That said, what is the next phase for crypto? If crypto lasts, and I believe it will, then we will see a slow move to proof of stake mining, which does not demand large investments in equipment and high electric bills, but rather investments in coins and small electric bills.
why are you offending me... why are you an insecure child ?... di i tell you you are doing anything wrong by mining... no.. i just said what i did after close to 18 months of mining on my cards..... one they when you will grow some pubes and think how i can buy new more powerful cards you will understand... or just coins.
you're too pessimistic, everyone spoke like you when eth took a fat hit last year and people sold their rigs. anybody worth their salt knew all they had to do was mine through the market dip and hold till eth hit another spike. same shit is happening now, people sell their crypto after the december holidays cause they need money and the reduced volumes take the market way down. Most coins are getting more difficult to mine and with difficulty comes price increase as well as the general market recovery and more price increases due to btc tether. coins like zen and etc are all going to breach 100$ this year. Making a job off of mining doesn't mean just managing rigs, you would have nothing to do the entire day if all you did was sit around waiting for rigs to crash and put them back online. Trading as well as using your build skills to build rigs for clients allows crypto to be a viable job, you just aren't trying hard enough.
I have it up and running a legit copy of Win 10 Pro. Only two cards on it at the moment, will buy a third one and then wait for the Nvidia offerings in March/April before filling the last 5 slots.
It has run stable for me without a problem. Powering with an EVGA 750 Platinum PSU for the board and first 2 (soon to be 3) cards. The last 5 cards will be powered with an EVGA 850 Gold PSU.
Assembly was very, very simple. I used a 60 Gb SSD from Octominer, and their 4 Gb ram as well. I have a custom built Spotswood open air frame for it.
For Win 10, I suggest you install, update, then follow Sonofatech's youtube guide for settings for Win 10. Also, remove the password screen if you inadvertently start it during the install. Super simple reboots that way.
Wow, those prices on the HP server power supplies is outrageous, so is the price for the breakout board. You can buy 2 of the exact server PSUs on Amazon and 5 of the breakout boards. Why would you push these rip off prices?
A couple of weeks ago I bought 2 HP gold 750 PSUs for 12 each. I bought cables and breakout board from aliexpress for cheap. I'm replacing the fans with a custom adapter and a larger fan. Probably 92mm PWM.
Show me a comparable package with cables if you don’t mind, the prices have also basically doubled since I bought any server PSU I will say. Sadly a ton of parts have jacked prices currently. Where can I find a evga 1200w plat in stock for a good price also?
People mine coins because, after they've paid off their rig (2-4 months), other than selling some to pay the electricity costs, every other coin they mine is free. So who's the smarter one? You buying coins with cash or the miner getting them for free?
sniper, nobody that mines with GPUs has enough coins for IRS to give a shit about lol.
Jacob, if you buy a coin and do absolutely nothing until it dies, you deserve to lose your money.
Vosk, buying is finite...not sure this makes sense. putting 1-20% (averaged) of your regular paycheck into crypto is not finite. Mining is finite because the hardware becomes obsolete...it always does. Unless you want to mine new shitcoins perpetually
Mining is fun, absolutely. Making money is more fun.
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