Can the death penalty be executed humanely?
Should we even be implementing it at all?
Why are we talking about this on a comedy show?
John Oliver tackles the tough questions.
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It costs so much more for death penalty cases because there are appeals, the case goes to higher courts and in the meantime the accused is often confined seperately. I can sympathize with Americans not wanting their tax dollars to go towards the privatized mess of just barely taking care of inmates on a basic level, but the system is so fundamentally broken that people who come in leave more likely to come back like a revolving door and sadly the solution (while not as simple as) does include more money being given. As for capital punishment, if you're found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, not just circumstancial, there were witnesses or video evidence, hard evidence, they take you out back and shoot you.
Are we sure that the fox lady near the beginning who says "A convicted killer from Oklahoma *dies* after a botched execution" actually knows that the dying part was intended? She sounds like she's thinking "holy shit, how could this go so wrong that someone winds up dying‽", only without the über-classy interrobang.
I used to be against the death penalty, but not anymore. I believe the death penalty should be saved for people who rape kids, and I'm not talking statutory rape, I'm talking fucking child molestors. I believe that in the case that there is absolutely undeniable evidence, or admission of guilt, these people don't deserve another second on this god damn earth. They are a waste of space, and they don't deserve life.
We have no problem punishing those who commit any crime. But when someone commits the ultimate crime... anyone who can sneek into someone's house,kidnap their daughter during her slumber party,take her to an isolated area,introduce her to the male penis in the most violent and graphic way possible, choke the life out of her,discard of her body under a sheet of plywood and then insult her father at his sentencing,deserves to be put to death. but that's just my opinion.
I don't get all the bleeding hearts here for criminals who truly deserve it. I am absolutely for the death penalty for example for sex crimes (especially those against children), animal abusers, and those who commit particularly heinous homicides. They should die the way they killed their victims.
My beliefs on the death penalty
1. Good people shouldn't die and death row should be HIGHLY selected
2. Truly evil people (rapests, murder, child molesters, ect.) should die to bring peace to the family
The Death Penalty is a long-burning fuse, touching on similar ethical topics.
We have just had a refer/end'em in Ireland over abortion. Where the State prevents any recourse to an unwanted pregnancy: clearly that becomes incumbent unto the State to meet that the State acquit and supply the resources which that child shall have expected from a voluntary birth
State coercion can be waived juducially past various social norms, but can not escape monetary responsibility.
I love John Oliver and even though I don't support the death penalty I'm not against it either. I can see the pros and cons of each side, and maybe if I had a loved one brutally murdered I might want the perpetrator to die. So yeah, I don't think I really can judge people who support the death penalty.
But going to the arguments, I admit that the "cost" argument is true, but it has its problems. Extra costs are especially due to extra legal costs of a death penalty case, and not so much with housing costs. That has to do to a number of reasons, the main one being that death penalty cases are much more complex, time consuming and require more specialists to build credible evidence. So yeah, if there are cases of injustice when the death penalty is sought - despite these high standards, imagine when it is not? I think the general population drastically underestimates the number of wrongful convictions, and that is a major problem of the justice system itself: it's a lot more flawed than people believe.
Another major issue that is so rarely spoken of, is the risk of tampering with evidence by investigators. We assume investigators and forensic scientists are paladins of justice looking for the truth, but in many cases they're not. There should be better systems in place to deter them from being corrupt and manipulate evidence. Videotaping interrogations was a major step forward, but I think investigators should also be obliged to film their searches. I think searches should be streamed live to be honest.
If some stranger who is likely innocent gets killed by Government isn’t enough to make you want to abolish capital punishment, then venture down the road of YOU being charged and convicted on something you are innocent of and are put to death. Even though your line of thinking is, “ I’ll never do anything or be near anything ever that will land me in any such situation” you never know, and that was likely the exact thinking of people who were killed for a crime they did not do as well. If you still need one more reason and aren’t quite convinced, then here it is, if you are a criminal and do things that could land you in the slammer and put to death with two bangs of the judges hammer (I know, I know, it’s gavelbut hammer rhymed) then you can alleviate this possibility by abolishing capital punishment haha.
Finland- the country with incentives to remove a parent's parental rights to have an influx of European looking children for adoption and parents letting their friends get intimate with their underage children. OfCoUrSe FiNlAnD iS oN aLl ThE GoOd LiStS (sacrasm)
The death penalty is not so much a deterent for criminals as it is satisfaction for the surviving victims
Countries with very harsh (Death) penalties dont have less crime then countries that dont
Luckily justice isnt brought by the victims but by impartial judges
Can u imagine how soon torture would be reinstated if the penalty was decided by the victims themselves?
Oliver is lying when he says we spend 10 times as much on people with the death penalty as those with life sentences. He counts the costs of lawyers used to answer all the appeals. But, he ignores those costs for people with life sentences. People with life sentences have just as many appeals as death penalty prisoners. I was in prison ministry for 15 years. I have dozens of murderers, rapists, etc. as friends. Every single one was constantly involved in one appeal or another. There is a whole system they use:
Sentence: Life without parole
Appeal over and over until you get a judge to give you a year sentence, like 300 years.
Appeal over and over until to get that number reduced over and over again until the sentence matches the time you have served.
Oliver is lying when he says inmates with life sentences are happy to stay in prison and don't appeal.
Rick Perry approved 250 executions and the total cost was at least 575,000,000$. At least 8 of those 250 were innocent or should not have been on death row but Rick Perry quashed any noise the people made. Its 3x more expensive to execute someone than it is to house them for 40 years maximum security.
Death Penalty cases go on for longer than non death penalty cases this costs the Tax Payer Millions of Dollars. Death Penalty cases cost the Tax Payer Millions of Dollars. Murder Rates are not lower in Death Penalty States.
Okay, so I've watched this video a couple of times now since its release. I can almost understand that it's supposed to be a deterrent (only "almost"), but how the f*ck are the costs of captivity an argument?
It throws me everytime
What train of thought leads to this argument?
"Well they are criminal. They might be a threat to the rest of society so they should be excluded and kept under control. Nah that's quite costly, I'd rather end their life"?
Do you not value life?
How is something like this not against the basic code if a democratic country???
Especially if you consider how the classification of the severity of a crime can be arbitrary.
Imagine having to die because of a marijuana charge, *hm* if you catch my drift...
I think that we should only use the death penalty as a way to protect the innocent from someone. If we put someone in a maximum security prison for life with no parole (ie, as much security as constitutionally possible) and they broke out, THEN it is okay in my mind. Can anyone agree with that?
I laughed what are you gonna do, step on my hamster. We live in a society that can afford to drive in the bike lane but the skirts women wear just keep getting shorter and shorter, our planet is not asleep its awake and will be a lot smaller if we dont lower taxes on the middle class. im not a scientist im a human being goddammit.
If humans kill and even have bounties on coyotes, wolves and other wild canines for daring to go after a lamb for food, to go after raccoons because they eat trash, to go after iguanas because they dare eat plants (not even mentioning how protected cats, one of the species that are highly invasive and decimate the environment are protected). If a human steals they may spend time in jail...but that's all. Hell rapest don't get killed, it's hard for humans to be killed because they think themselves as so damn high and mighty. I swear.
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